Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quotamour.livejournal.com
Right after I sent the last comment, another friend sent me the link to the clip, so I've seen it now. It's unbelievable. Palin as a "poor victim of the liberal elites and press"--? How do they figure they can sell that claim to anyone who's actually seen the clips? She won her gold medal as the Laughing Stock of America fair and square. You make an excellent point: I can't think of anyone I know personally who would respond to that question the way Palin did. It's truly disturbing. She seems hell-bent on building her public image on a teetering tower of logical fallacies (i.e. converting her weaknesses to attacks), and I hope it all comes crashing down tomorrow night.

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webfarmer.livejournal.com
How do they think they can sell it in spite of the reality of the event? More than a few folks will eat just about anything that is in harmony with their pre-existing world views.

And if you say it often enough with enough vigor, some folks just might think what is being said is actually true.

And there's more than a little bit of truth in that old Guide for the Married Man clip I've noted before. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRUk1V9tcyA

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quotamour.livejournal.com
Well, I'm heartened by the news that Obama is leading in three critical states right now, and early voting starts today. Still, I'll only breathe deeply again after the election is over.

That clip makes my skin crawl! lol

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webfarmer.livejournal.com
That's a great bit of acting and writing. I really enjoy watching it after all these years. I remember it from when that movie was on television eons ago.

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webfarmer.livejournal.com
Logical fallacies have been the stock in trade for Republicans for years now. With no small bit of success, I might add.

How else does McCain come off as a man of the people whereas Obama is framed as an elitist given their personal histories? George Lakoff provided some answers as has Thomas Frank in recent years. I'm still not sure if the Democrats have quite digested it properly such that they can implement it.

Obama's "bitter" comments were certainly a poor recycling job of Frank's concepts for example.

What's the Matter with Liberals? (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17982) - Thomas Frank - NYRB, FWIW.

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quotamour.livejournal.com
I feel myself getting riled up, so I'll wait until later to click that link. Yes... it's mind-boggling how Obama can be portrayed an as elitist when McCain is the one who married an heiress.

Re: thanks!

Date: 2008-10-01 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webfarmer.livejournal.com
And he's the son of an admiral who's father was an admiral as I recall.

There's some comment, who knows if substantiated, that he only survived the Naval Academy because of that family connection. We do know he was pretty much a screw-up in academics and behavior.

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