Hillary as New Nader?

[webfarmer]

So let's say that Obama wins but is so damaged by Clinton's attacks that he loses to McCain.

Does the hate fest that was unleashed on Nader for causing Gore to lose (supposedly) now get directed to Hillary for single-handedly destroying Obama's prospects after it was clear she couldn't win?

The National Organization for Women (NOW) president, Kim Gandy, on Democracy Now! today made me sick by her comments on how Hillary wasn't being negative and that in fact it was Obama who was the mud slinger. She also notes Hillary was always anti-NAFTA. [explicative deleted]

What's sad for me is that it seems that Obama's campaign apparently has decided to take the bait and join the battle on that level. I don't think he can do that without seriously damaging his brand. Maybe being out of demographically unfriendly Pennsylvania will have them re-evaluating that decision.

Comments

[xeipwv.livejournal.com]

I saw that too. I found her statement that Hillary won because Obama's attack ads turned people off to be incredible. From what I've heard, negative ads, though hated, actually work. They play better in some places than others, but PA is one place where they do well.

I found the Pogrebin interview irritating as well. Letty, longtime feminist, seems to want to cross the finish line no matter who the woman candidate is. Letty would probably support Eva Braun if she were running:Letty and Abigail Pogrebin on Now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3wslaUyQg)
(no, I'm not comparing Hillary to Eva, just commenting on the interview.)

I'm going to throw in one piece on Clinton's dirty money deals, though I don't know if it's manufactured or not. I probably shouldn't be spreading these conspiratorial exposés, but I'm a sucker for this stuff. The soundtrack is good.
part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw)
part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&NR=1)

[markmc03.livejournal.com]

It is as dirty a process as you can get. McCain should be very easy to knock down. He's a literal dinosaur. This was just a stumble ... and not even much of one at that. It was only a month ago that Hillary had a lead of over 20 percent and she lost that. The fact that she regained one or two percent in the last week because of fighting dirty will not change the fact that Obama still excites people. I grimace when I see the media overplay the stumble, but they seem out to lynch him anyway. Let's see what happens next.